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Ср, Сен 6, 2006 10:56am Адвокат Игорь Громов - 6452 d back

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Чт, Сен 14, 2006 12:00pm Dervish - 6444 d back

Former name...ya tozhe Sidorov po devichey...Smile

v prostih casah-glavnoe tschatelnostь, dobrosovestnostь i vseSmile
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 05:27pm Адвокат Игорь Громов - 6444 d back

Что значит 2 года слабо? Есть адвокаты которые практикуют 20 лет и халатно относятся к делу и не предоставляют адекватный результат. Главное знать свое дело. Молодые еще не зажрались и работают дешевле и качественее. Все адвокаты когда то начинали, и все врачи и механики тоже когда то начинали. Я работаю 2 года, год с кем то, год сам. Поверь мне, коллега, ты не хуже меня знаеш что для нашей работы не нужно иметь 20 лет опыта чтобы успешно сделать дело. Мне в принципе плевать кто че на интернете обо мне думает. В конце дня, меня, как и всех работяг, волнует денежный результат от клиентов которые мне платят, и правильно ли я выполнил работу.

У меня в оффисе висит диплом Чикаго Кент Колледж Права : Игорь Г. Громов, Доктор Юриспруденции, 2004 год. И ни одного клиента это не смутило. Люди идут ко мне по репутации, по доступности, по ценам, и так далее.

А вот копать мои личные биографические данные и высвечивать их на интернете - некрасиво. Сдесь на форуме половина нелегалов приехали под черт знает чьей фамилией. Я не знаю настоящюю фамилию половины моих клиентов, и я тоже сделал всё возможное чтобы сюда вьехать и воплотить свою мечту.


Игорь Громов
Адвокат
(312) 953-4801
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 09:36pm Legal Info - 6444 d back

Advokat doljen bit spetzialiston a ne generalistom.

Ne vozmojno vse legalnii problemi reschit adekvatno.

Chesno skazatj - ne slichal nechego ploxova o tebe. Neznau naskoljko ti znaesh chto ti delaesh.

No esli mene ponadobitcya advokat - yvi ti nebudesh im.

Skoljko advokat practicuetcya igraet rolj. Konechno, estj te kto practicuetcya goda i vseravno nechego neymet. No ya vidil kak specialisti s katorimi ya sotrudnichaya dovali pod xvos novechkam ili daje vitaskivali clients kogda drugie rusko govorachie (nekotarie) sozali.
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 09:40pm [Аноним] - 6444 d back

lots of lawyers wear many hats, though. i guess this is how they make their money. unless you're a big name in your field, you've got to take whatever comes your way. wrong?
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 09:44pm Legal Info - 6444 d back

You are wrong because an attorney cannot follow all the follows and or changes that are being made right as we speak. It is essential to be a specialist in your field. Connections are made and cases are won that way. Would you go to a doctor who promises to cure you of all diseases or would you go to a specialist that would cure you of one but do it well?
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 09:48pm [Аноним] - 6444 d back

right, but at the same time, lots of law offices have their displays full from top to bottom: real estate, marriage, workers' comp, injuries, you name it. and there would be one or two of them in there. how so?
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 09:54pm Dervish - 6444 d back

Legal, stranno chto ti ne ponimaesh kontsepsii ot prostogo k slozhnomy Smile

Chtobi bilo ponyatney, tozhe privedy analogiyu s vrachami:

prosteyshaya blizoryukost'
-Lyuboy normal'niy okyulist provedet proverky zreniya, vipishet nyuzhnie ochki, rasskazhet kak ykreplyat glaznuyu mishtsy...i t.d..

Katarakta, pomyutnenie hryustalika, otsloenie setchatki-tolko k glaznomy hiryurgy visokoy kvalifikatsii.
O chem tyt myusolitь? Wink
Чт, Сен 14, 2006 10:48pm Legal Info - 6444 d back

Dervish---- ya obajau kogda ludi taki kak ti sami sebe protevarechyat.

ti videl(a) chtobi glaznik lechil zybi ili pochki?

"Lyuboy normal'niy okyulist provedet proverky zreniya"

ochem ti govorish... kak govoritcya...esli nexochesh chtobi ludi dumali chto ti glupi ludchi derjat yazik za zybami....vozmi eto sovet i pomolchi.

Anonim - pishu kak xochu.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 11:29am Адвокат Игорь Громов - 6443 d back

Legal Info,

I see your Russian is suffering, probably because you're too Americanized, so I'll type in your "native" language. Have you ever heard the concept of a family physician? A general family doctor who knows enough to treat any non-serious condition? And in case the condition is out of his competence or specialty, he'll refer you to a specialist who only concentrates in that field, such as heart surgery.

Same thing with general practice lawyers. I know enough law (and follow any changes, including attending seminars) to provide legal services in 3-4 different fields to your average russian. For example I started out doing simple stuff like traffic tickets and real estate deals. Although I have done over 500 of each in my mere two yeas of practice, I have seen pretty much everything, as there's really not much to know in these fields. Next, I saw that in order to handle a simple divorce by agreement of both parties, or by default, all you have to do is fill out some forms and prove-up the case in front of a judge. After doing 2-3 divorces and reading up the basic law on it, I have since handled well over 50 divorces, and not ONE had any complications.

Now I don't advertise myself to be a full-service family law attorney. In fact, my newspaper advertisements specifically mention that I only handle divorces by agreement or by default. Clients do call in with questions about contested divorces, child support, division of property, exactly. I am no expert, but I have read the law, but nevertheless, I always refer them to another attorney, who specializes mostly in family law. I do know when to turn down a case.

After learning trafic tickets, real estate and simple divorces, I saw that most russian clients have immigration issues. I never wanted to become an immigration attorney, as the law can get somewhat complex and constantly changes and I have no time for it. Nevertheless, my clients kept asking me to help them, so I took a good month of night-time reading and speaking to other attoneys and watching seminars and calling Immigration with tons of questions, I learned how to do SOME things in immigration, which are pretty simple, such as getting your fiancee or a family member here. I don't do H1B work visas or any other fancy stuff. But it's very simple to fill out a few forms to get a green card, a travel document, an employment authorization document, and believe me, I do know the law behind it. However, when someone calls me with a complicated immigration case, such as deportation, political asylum, etc, I tell them that I want nothing to do with that and refer them to someone who only handles immigration.

I also don't advertise that I handle all types of bankruptcies. I only do Chapter 7, because that's where the market demand is, and again, it's time-consuming but relatively simple. And I have handled bankruptcies successfully and continue to, despite the myth that last year's bankruptcy reform eliminated bankruptcy.

I also don't take criminal cases to trial, but I do successfully plea bargain with the prosecution to minimize any fines and eliminate convictions on my clients' records.

You are a lay person. You know nothing about the practice of law and the everyday tasks a lawyer has to handle. Your opinion that a lawyer has to specialize in only 1-2 fields is wrong. Very few lawyers handle only 1-2 things, simply because there's not enough demand to make a living by handling only 1-2 fields of law.

Yes, it was time-consuming learning about all different areas of the law. But again, I don't handle everything. I don't do personal injury, I don't do worker's comp, I don't do tax law or corporate work, trusts, estates. But I'm very successful in what I do for my clients and they are happy with the result, and I get more and more referrals every day. This internet site is just for entetainment. All I do is give free advice on the phone from this site. Real clients who pay money, don't usually resort to the internet to find a lawyer. America is a competition-based economy, and if I wasn't good at what I do, I wouldn't have survived for the last year working for myself. It's quite the opposite, my client base grows and so does my experience. I make good money and I am my own boss. I set my salary, my work schedule, decide what I wanna do and what I don't. And trust me, I wouldn't want YOU as my client. If a potential client doubts my competency or gives me shit, let him go screw himself, I don't have time for attitude and don't much care for the pennies he won't pay me, because I can afford to. Now go get a life, stop surfing the internet and talking dirt, and stop taking away my precious time.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 11:32am Адвокат Игорь Громов - 6443 d back

And by the way, I have handled several full-blown trials, like you see in lawyer TV shows, and even won some, both winning and saving my clients money. But that doesn't matter to you, because to you I'm just a graduated law student. Idiot.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 11:52am [Аноним] - 6443 d back

you guys stop tearing the legal guy up. never know, maybe he'll make it to presidency.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 12:21pm Иришка - 6443 d back

Я конечно очень извиняюсь,но если мне память не изменяет-это сайт" Русский Чикаго".Хотелось бы читать на русском языкеSmile
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 01:25pm Legal Info - 6443 d back

You are a lay person. You know nothing about the practice of law and the everyday tasks a lawyer has to handle. Your opinion that a lawyer has to specialize in only 1-2 fields is wrong. Very few lawyers handle only 1-2 things, simply because there's not enough demand to make a living by handling only 1-2 fields of law.
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Wrong about me being a lay person as a matter of fact I resent that since you are just as much of a lay person as I am (using your twisted logic.) I have just as much if not more knowledge than you do based on my experience. And there are enough attorneys that handle one or to areas of the law and make a pretty good living at it.

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And trust me, I wouldn't want YOU as my client. If a potential client doubts my competency or gives me shit, let him go screw himself, I don't have time for attitude and don't much care for the pennies he won't pay me, because I can afford to. Now go get a life, stop surfing the internet and talking dirt, and stop taking away my precious time.
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I am simply providing service to people, mind you without a hidden agenda.

In any case, I will admit that in my extensive experience I haven't encountered any clients that were unhappy with Igor's services.

I was just trying to forewarn some people here that if they have a complicated issue they should seek out a specialist to help them.

This or any previous posting were made by no means to discredit Igor, but to simply provide a difference of opinion. Its is just that some people cannot handle an arguement and or difference of opinion.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 01:37pm гражданка - 6443 d back

>>>This or any previous posting were made by no means to discredit Igor

then why the h@ll did you disclose his "former name"?
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 01:46pm Адвокат Игорь Громов - 6443 d back

I don't think disclosing any of my former names discredits me in any way, especially as a lawyer. I know many people, lawyers and non, who have used several names for many personal reasons. I found out who he is, talked to him on the phone, and we settled any disputes. Let's close this topic.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 03:18pm [Аноним] - 6443 d back

guys, stop itSmile the lawyer guy could be our next president, and then you all will be sorry.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 03:21pm [Аноним] - 6443 d back

thats what i said. it's hard for a lawyer, especially for a novice, to zero in only on one field. they won't make a whole lot of moola this way. once they make a name for themselves, then maybe they can narrow down their practice, but at the beginning you grab anything that comes your way. this is the case with most people, not just lawyers.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 04:18pm Legal Info - 6443 d back

Neither of us could be a president. You have to be born here unless someone changes the constitution.
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 04:19pm MrZ - 6443 d back

легалИнфо, делать тебе нечего больше чем капать на других, говорит о том, что ты завистлевый и нехороший человек. Игорь, я б даже не тратил нервы
Пт, Сен 15, 2006 10:38pm [Аноним] - 6443 d back

legal, i'll propose the change. i want to have a shot too. Smile it's so darn unfairSmile
Сб, Сен 16, 2006 03:55am Legal Info - 6443 d back

MrZ eslbi ya kopal togda neverno mojet i nakopal.

Mene zavidovat nekchemu. To chto delau ya a kakau poljzu prinashu ni mnogi symeli-bi.

Ya prosto xotel podelitcya koi kakim opitom. Ny esli ti nexochesh slychatj togda delaj kak xochesh - tovya zizn.
Сб, Сен 16, 2006 10:28am [Аноним] - 6442 d back

Легал - какую именно пользю ты какаеш?
Сб, Сен 16, 2006 06:16pm Legal Info - 6442 d back

Anonist----naprimer naproshloj nedeli mne pozvanila dva cheloveka katorie ne mogli vernutj svoi deposit, paru ludej mi nedavno vitachili iz turmi, takje dokazali chto immigration zateryal documenti clienta....immigration sama v etom priznalacj nam - y nas estj svyazi v immigration..... mi delaet to chto nekotarim advokatom ne podcily. we don't just plea bargain cases - we win them! If I start to list what I do, including working the politicians, you won't have enough time to read it. I help out in the community not just to make money, but to help my community because I enjoy doing it.
Сб, Сен 16, 2006 06:28pm [Аноним] - 6442 d back

взиать бы етого Легал Инфо да в Соловки!
Вс, Сен 17, 2006 01:48pm MrZ - 6441 d back

LegalInfo and Igor, I think both of you are in the same business filed, so have some prof. courtesy to each other. LegalInfo, it is very uncommon for the attorneys to criticize each other publicly, so it was not very professional from your side at the beginning. Really, you help folks - so does Igor, but you are the one who started to talk to people who came here to read Igor's answers and seek Igor's advise!
Why? Get your license, start your own forum. Compete with style and courtesy.
Also think about it, you get license, start practice and you already have some bad feelings toward yourself from the folks here and other attorney- it is not good for your business...
And both of you, please disregard any anonymous posts…it is in the nature of the public business and internet forums to have some really nasty posts. Good luck to you, please be with Peace and Wisdom.
Сб, Янв 23, 2016 02:44pm [Аноним] - 3026 d back

Игорь как с вами можно связаться? Мне нужна помощь юридическая
Вс, Янв 24, 2016 09:35am [Аноним] - 3025 d back

http://www.russianyellowpages.com/Russian/business/Gromov-Law-Office
Пн, Янв 25, 2016 08:34pm Олег - 3024 d back

Вопрос:в октябре прошлого года выслали доки на гр.карту,до сих пор не сняли иммигрейшн фи и не получили письмо с номером кейса,адвокат говорит-надо ждать,бумаги у них .А я переживаю,почему так долго не регистрируют мое дело??
Вс, Фев 7, 2016 02:50pm [Аноним] - 3011 d back

Yep. I can picture F Lee Bailey or Clarence Darrow squabbling with people online about what he does or does not do... F..k, dude...
Вт, Фев 16, 2016 10:10pm [Аноним] - 3002 d back

you can picture nothing, DUDE. When these people were starting out, they were squabbling like everybody else. Or you think F Lee Bailey or my man Clarence Darrow became big dudes overnight?

Sure, there was no "online" in those days, but it means nothing. They fought for clients, they did all those things that any competitor in a free market would do.
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