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Вт, Фев 20, 2007 10:39am A. - 6797 d back

Родители есть среди форумчан? Smile Как решиться на 2го ребенка? Первому уже 4 года, пора б за сестренкой или братишкой...
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Ср, Фев 21, 2007 04:28pm Мечта - 6796 d back

Не, просто перевести забылаSmile
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 04:48pm [Аноним] - 6796 d back

i didnt say you guys buy nice houses, i said you buy average houses, you can't afford nice ones, and certainly not in nice neighborhoods. you buy all things average, but somehow to you, they appear grand. you simply have a different frame of reference, that's all I am trying to say. but even buying that much, you do it for show. i hope i am getting it across better now. americans buy stuff too, of course, but most of them do it for themselves, not for the neighbors although i do know some who are pretty much like you guys. interestingly, those some are mainly second- or third-generation americans of russian/jewish extraction. isnt that telling?
now the meaning of "ghetto" is not quite what you guys think. ghetto doesn't necessarily mean slums, and yes, russian neighborhoods are better than american inner city slums, but that wasn't my point. ghetto is also something that's set apart from the whole, the whole in this case being the mainstream america.
and finally, 80K is the average salary of educated american professionals, not the average salary of all americans including burger flippers, so i suggest you specify the labor dept. statistics. and in fact, 80k or around could be entry level wage for some professions, such as financiers, medical doctors, stock brokers, and even attorneys if they're lucky enough to land a job with prestigious law firms.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 04:54pm Женатый человек (Married man) - 6796 d back

Anonymous, define nice house, and nice neighborhood. Also, can you please provide me with the link to this statistic that you have.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 04:56pm zluka - 6796 d back

Конкретный вопрос: сколько в твоём понятии должен стоить НЕ average house и где он должен находиться?
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 05:04pm Мечта - 6796 d back

Anonim, I personally think, that most people here got your point and completely understand your concrns.
Thank you very much for carring.
Now, DROP IT, would you, please!!
Let everybody make their own choices as to where to live, how big house to buy, select their own car and many more.
Nobody asking you to pay for those items that they decided to purchase.
They make their payments themself!!
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 05:07pm Дед Пихто - 6796 d back

Народ вы чё не видите что с етим долбо....ом бесполезно разговаривать? Оно зациклилось на своём и ево не сдвинут. Пришло раз в полгода повыёгивалось и свалило обратно под свой камушек. Нах.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 05:10pm Мечта - 6796 d back

Дед, а мы не народ, а девушки.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 05:11pm zluka - 6796 d back

Видим-видим, интересно только ему кто-то переводит или это бывший соотечественник выделывается Smile
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 05:36pm Dervish - 6796 d back

sootechestvennitsa, i guessWink
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 07:50pm [Аноним] - 6796 d back

the statistics come from life. i know a lot of people who make that much money, including recent college grads on their first jobs. officially, i think you can check out msn, cnn, and other sites which put out those numbers once in a while. actually, the last time i checked, they were higher than mine for the average salaries. i wouldn't trust the labor dept all that much because the gov's take is a bit skewed, just like with real estate values.
i am not telling you which house to buy and i certainly don't advise. i am telling you what kind of houses you're actually buying and what you think about those buys, that's all.
nice house and nice neighborhood in the chicago area would probably be on the northshore, starting from wilmette and all the way up north to lake forest. however, even those areas have mediorcre housing and poorer enclaves, especially west wilmette and highland park. also, in evanston, the lake front mansions cost a fortune. in the city, it would be downtown and the gold coast, and there are a couple on the south shore, like flossmoor, for instance. but again, there are shacks in those areas as well. it's just that they're expensive overall. the prices would probably range from 700K to millions of dollars.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 08:27pm zluka - 6796 d back

Весеннее обострение что ли? А ведь вроде ещё не весна Smile
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 08:42pm Е. - 6796 d back

>>Вот интересно что тогда порядок? (Чудо)
Порядок братко - не заморачиваться комментариями каких-то анонимов. Мы-то знаем что мы правы, а анонимы пусть морковку грызут. Smile

>>the prices would probably range from 700K to millions of dollars. (??)
Усе, влип студент. Smile
Для анонима: Думаю теперь пора представить широкой общественности веские доказательства того что ты обладаеш таким самым домом за лимон. Рекомендую быть изобретатьльным с доказательствами, а то знаеш за ли линк на фотку дома Мела Гибсона тебя здесь под орех разделают.

И еще: а) кратость - сестра таланта, а с этим у тебя явно туго; б) неплохо бы блеснуть своим перфектным русским, а то народ уже сомневается в твоей интеллектуальной адекватности этому форуму.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 08:49pm zluka - 6796 d back

Е., ты б у него ещё paystub попросил Laughing
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 08:52pm Е. - 6796 d back

Хочу просто посмотреть как это звиздос будет выкручиваться,а то пальцы гнет много. Впрочем чуда не ожидаю - туповат клиент, так подставиться...
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 09:06pm [Аноним] - 6796 d back

i dont remember saying that i have a million dollar house. what i said was that most russians buy inexpensive real estate in average areas thinking that they bought a crown jewel and feel bitter and jealous of everybody else. i quoted the prices at the request of somebody on this thread who asked what would constitute a nice house in a nice area, that's all.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 09:15pm zluka - 6796 d back

If we are so bitter and jealous, what are you doing here with us, ha? Smile And by the way, maybe it's time for you to find some other russian friends. You know, the ones that DO have million dollar houses in nice areas... no, wait... they probalby won't play with you cause you don't have one.Smile
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 09:28pm [Аноним] - 6796 d back

zluka, i didnt say i was bitter and jealous, i just said most russians are. i am not russian in the first place, and in the second, i am not looking for people with million dollar houses for the sake of the houses. if they happen to have one, good for them, but this is not the point. i agree, though, that russians wouldnt probably look your way if they had one, but among americans, it's kind of rare. i can tell you that i had, among my college mates, lots of very affluent people who are still my friends and who never flaunted their wealth as russians would do if they had any.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 09:33pm Е. - 6796 d back

>>i dont remember saying that i have a million dollar house. (?)
Хе-хе, hear we go. Smile И это недоразумение нас учить пытается в каом доме жить.
Ты скажи мне, аноним, ты уже себе хоть рент-то снял, или все еще в мамкином доме подживаеш? Уж больно тэорией твои измышления попахивают.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 09:39pm [Аноним] - 6796 d back

i am not telling anybody what to do. what i am saying is that russians buy mediorce housing in mediocre areas but somehow, with their non-existent frame of reference, they think about them as the palaces of the last russian czar. i also said that they buy them mostly to show off to their friends, and that for americans, it's most atypical. that's all i said. i am not discussing my own living conditions, nor anybody else's in particular.
Ср, Фев 21, 2007 10:11pm zluka - 6796 d back

zluka, i didnt say i was bitter and jealous, i just said most russians are.(c)
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And I said: "If WE are so bitter and jealous, what are you doing here with us, ha?" Or maybe you understand russian better then english?Smile Скажи, с какой книжки ты свои заученные фразочки переписываешь? Smile
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 12:00am LOL - 6796 d back

Wed, Feb 21 09:39pm [Аноним] - 1 час назад ↑↓

i am not telling anybody what to do. what i am saying is that russians buy mediorce housing in mediocre areas but somehow, with their non-existent frame of reference, they think about them as the palaces of the last russian czar. i also said that they buy them mostly to show off to their friends, and that for americans, it's most atypical. that's all i said. i am not discussing my own living conditions, nor anybody else's in particular.
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Ну а тебе не пох...? Very\ Happy
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 12:34am [Аноним] - 6796 d back

oh sorry about it, i misread it. what am i doing here? basically chilling while on downtime, and speaking my mind along with it. i hope it doesn't bother you too much.
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 12:37am Баронесса - 6796 d back

Ой, сейчас сходила на российский форум, какие же мы тут все с вами культурные!!!
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 08:10am T - 6795 d back

не рожай если не уверенa. ребёнкa винить потом бyдeшь. а дрyгих не cлушай, eтo oни ceйчac cмeлые a kak помочь не дoждёшься.
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 08:54am Е. - 6795 d back

>>какие же мы тут все с вами культурные!!!
Это с издевкой?
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 09:41am Дед Пихто - 6795 d back

а ты сходи и узнаеш Wink
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 10:17am анна - 6795 d back

Баронесса , не могли бы Вы подсказать координаты этого российского форума , спасибо заранее .
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 10:29am КУ - 6795 d back

Деду: "На самом деле когда ты делаеш "лучше или легче" ето их выводит, им хочется трудностей, драмы и скандала чтобы было ково пообвинять"
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- Чё за бредятина? Единственное, что может раздражать, так это непрошенная мужская инициатива. Это когда силища много, а применяет он их не там, где МНЕ НАДО. Вот это просто бесит. Его никто не просил, он начинает делать, не там, ни туда, не так ааааааа- убью нафик! С другой стороны, когда просишь и не делает, тоже бесит. Поэтому мне по душе человек, который способен отреагировать, когда просят и не лезть в бутылку, когда НЕ просят.
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 10:31am Dervish - 6795 d back

A "komandovatь paradom"..... da, KY? Smile
Чт, Фев 22, 2007 10:35am Дед Пихто - 6795 d back

Единственное, что может раздражать/это просто бесит/убью нафик/просишь и не делает, тоже бесит (KU)

I rest my case Very\ Happy
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