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| Пн, Авг 2, 2010 06:46pm Marat - 5022 d back | ↑↓ |
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Posovetyete,shto lytshe vzyat Audi S5 ili BMW 330Xi,v cene pochti ne otlichaytsa,kto mojet imeet,otozvites!Mne audi bolshe ponravulas,no u bymer horosh.Obe brand new.
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| Вт, Авг 3, 2010 02:46pm Andrey - 5022 d back | ↑↓ |
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Audi 100%
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| Вт, Авг 3, 2010 07:21pm [Аноним] - 5021 d back | ↑↓ |
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BMW oboydetsa dorozhe v servise i polomok na poryadok bol'she budet no "Bratve Mozhno Wse"
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| Вт, Авг 3, 2010 08:20pm [Аноним] - 5021 d back | ↑↓ |
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Boeway Mashina Winipuha
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| Вт, Авг 3, 2010 10:20pm [Аноним] - 5021 d back | ↑↓ |
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v audi chasto lamaetsya komputer, tak chto beri bymer
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| Ср, Авг 4, 2010 12:38am [Аноним] - 5021 d back | ↑↓ |
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Бери, что хочешь и не пудри людям мозги.
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| Вт, Авг 10, 2010 02:23pm [Аноним] - 5015 d back | ↑↓ |
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ppc y tebja problema!!!
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| Вт, Авг 10, 2010 05:53pm mrZ - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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Марат, S5- купе с восьмеркой-движком и стоит 53 штуки со старта, дороже биммера 330Хи (42 штуки с шестеркой), может ты имел ввиду А5? биммер всетаки ездит уникал'ние
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| Вт, Авг 10, 2010 08:38pm automehanuk - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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Skajy tak:eslu brat novue uz Germanskuh to lubo Audi,lubo Mercedes.BMW yje sovsem ne ta chto bula ranshe,y vseh modelei nachunaya s 2006 goda postoyanue problemu s elektronukoi.Shto kasaetsa novuh to po kachestvy Audi seichas lytshe vseh nemcev.
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 11:51am mrZ - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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по качеству лучше всех у немцев Порше, кстати Бокстер ездит шикарно
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 02:21pm automehanuk - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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VW,AUDI,PORSHE-odna kantora,Porshe Cayenne i VW Tuareg postroemu na odnoi baze,no v servuse Porshe dorogyshchi...
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 02:30pm automehanuk - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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Kstatu y Boxter water pump and purge valve N90 made by VW/AUDI
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 02:43pm [Аноним] - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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a lyche vse ge LEXUS
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 03:18pm TT - 5014 d back | ↑↓ |
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gavno,kysok plastmasu.
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 05:37pm mrZ - 5013 d back | ↑↓ |
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Порше просто старается малехо больше за качество, механик. Да и консумер репорт подтверждает.
Порше владеет фольксвагеном, а не наоборот 
Японцы конечно впереди всей планеты по качеству, но ни одна японская тачка не ездит так, как Порше или биммер. Хотя вот лексус сделал суперкар
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| Ср, Авг 11, 2010 06:25pm automehanuk - 5013 d back | ↑↓ |
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Ne pravda. Porshe vhodut v koncern Volkswagen Group,tyda vhodut Audi Skoda Seat Lamborgini.onu eto spucualno zdelalu chtob uh amer. ne kypulu,kak Mers.Pover ya znay chto govory.Ya stoboi celukom soglasen chto Porshe eto super car takje kak u vse nemeckue auto.i yaponcu nukogda ne bydyt um ravnu.
Marat hotel sovet ya emy dal.Prosto seichas BMW nemnogo progoigrevaet Audi i Mersy I Porshe i eto fakt.Ya zumoi bul v Germanui,i eslu sposit lubovo nemeckogo specualista to vse govoryat sho seichas Audi kachestvenei chem BMW.V danom sluchae vubor kasetsa tolko etuh dvyh.
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| Чт, Авг 12, 2010 12:49pm mrZ - 5013 d back | ↑↓ |
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Механик, Порше входи в Альянс,согласен, но владельцы Порше купили акции фол'ксвагена, а не наоборот.
То есть VW не может влиять на Порше, и наоборот, Порше диктует VW чего хочет. Ну по крайней мере мне так обяснили. Для потребителя ето значит, что Порше имеет свои, независимый от VW контроль качества и только выборочно полагается на детали VW...
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| Чт, Авг 12, 2010 11:44pm LonelyKnight - 5012 d back | ↑↓ |
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Купите Шевроле Камаро V-8 fully loaded 2010-го года и не парьтесь.
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| Пт, Авг 13, 2010 06:31am automehanuk - 5012 d back | ↑↓ |
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Porshe ne vladeet akcuyamu VW,I VW ne vladeet akcuyamu Porshe,i ne vladeet akcuyamu Audi.kak tu skazal eto Alyans.Onu obedenulus shto Crysler ne kovo ne kypul.
No injenera rabotayt uh vmeste,vot po etomy na Lamborgini stoyat motoru ot Audi,ana Porshe vstrechaytsa zapchastu ot VW.
No ladno,ne bydem sporit,vse ravno nemcu lytshe vseh.
Kstatu mrZ,eslu ne secret kakoi y tebya avtomobl?
(chusto radu interesa)
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| Пт, Авг 13, 2010 08:06am ►E.◄ - 5012 d back | ↑↓ |
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нате, читайте:
Ownership
Volkswagen is a publicly traded company, which issued ordinary shares and preferred shares. The ownership structure is complex. The following table shows the current shareholder structure. Note that neither the Porsche Automobil Holding nor the Porsche GmbH are identical with the Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, which is responsible for the production of Porsche sports cars. The Porsche Automobil Holding is owned by the Porsche family, the Emirate of Qatar, 49.9% are owned by the Volkswagen AG. The Porsche GmbH was sold to the Volkswagen AG.[26]
Shares Held by
50.76% as of 30 Jan 2009 Porsche Automobil Holding
2.37% as of 30 Jan 2009 Porsche Holding GmbH
20.26% as of 16 Feb 2008 State of Lower Saxony
17% as of 18. Dec 2009 Emirate of Qatar
9.61% widely held
[edit] Relationship with Porsche, and the Volkswagen Law
Volkswagen has always had a close relationship with Porsche, the Zuffenhausen-based sports car manufacturer founded in 1931 by Ferdinand Porsche, the original Volkswagen designer and Volkswagen company founder. The first Porsche car, the Porsche 64 of 1938, used many components from the Volkswagen Beetle. The 1948 Porsche 356 continued using many Volkswagen components, including a tuned engine, gearbox and suspension.
The two companies continued their collaboration in 1969 to make the VW-Porsche 914 and 914-6, whereby the 914-6 had a 6-cylinder Porsche engine, and the standard 914 had a 4-cylinder Volkswagen engine, and in 1976 with the Porsche 912E (USA only), and the Porsche 924, which used many Audi components and was built at an Audi Neckarsulm factory. Most 944s also were built there, although they used far fewer VW components.
The Porsche Cayenne, introduced in 2002, shares its entire chassis with VW Touareg and Audi Q7, which are built at the Volkswagen factory in Bratislava.
In September 2005, Porsche announced it would increase its 5% stake in Volkswagen to 20% at a cost of €3 billion, with the intention that the combined stakes of Porsche and the government of Lower Saxony would ensure that any hostile takeover by foreign investors would be impossible.[27] Speculated suitors included DaimlerChrysler, BMW, and Renault. In July 2006, Porsche increased their ownership again to 25.1%.
On 13 February 2007 Advocate General Dámaso Ruiz-Jarabo Colomer ruled that a German law preventing any shareholder in Volkswagen from executing more than 20% of the total voting rights in the firm was illegally restricting the flow of capital in Europe.[28] This again opened the possibility of a hostile takeover of VW and so on 26 March of the same year Porsche took its holding of Volkswagen shares to 30.9%. Porsche formally announced in a press statement that it did not intend to take over Volkswagen, but intended the move to avoid a competitor taking a large stake and to stop hedge funds from dismantling VW.[29] As expected, on 22 October 2007 the European Court of Justice ruled in agreement with Ruiz-Jarabo and the law was struck down.[30]
Wikinews has related news: Porsche and Volkswagen automakers agree to merger
On 26 October 2008, Porsche finally revealed its plan to assume control of VW. As of that day, it held 42.6 percent of Volkswagen's ordinary shares and stock options on another 31.5 percent. Combined with the state of Lower Saxony's 20.1% stake, this left only 5.8% of shares on the market most of which were held by index funds who could not legally sell.[31] Hedge funds desperate to cover their short positions forced Volkswagen stock above one thousand euros per share, briefly making it the world's largest company by market capitalisation on 28 October 2008.[32] By January 2009, Porsche had a 50.76% holding in Volkswagen AG, although the "Volkswagen Law" prevented it from taking control of the company.[33]
On 6 May 2009 the two companies decided to join together, in a merger.
On 13 August, Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft's Supervisory Board signed the agreement to create an integrated automotive group with Porsche led by Volkswagen. The initial decision was for Volkswagen to take a 42.0 percent stake in Porsche AG by the end of 2009, and it would also see the family shareholders selling the automobile trading business of Porsche Holding Salzburg to Volkswagen.[34] In October 2009 however, Volkswagen announced that its percentage in Porsche would be 49.9% for a cost of 3.9 billion euros (the 42.0% deal would have cost 3.3 billion euros).[35]
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| Пт, Авг 13, 2010 10:00am mrZ - 5012 d back | ↑↓ |
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Е, однако у них там борьба за кнотроль, интересно...
механик,был у меня биммер, теперь нету... запорожец тоже был, 968М
на бокстере ездил, на 3,5 биммере, на 3 ауди, на 4 ауди, на Е 300 мерсе... не понравилось мне ауди, честно- не владел, просто пробывал. Мерс - интересная машина, но не мое. Ауди просто не понравилось. Биммер 3и 5- впечатлило. На трешке педеаль чуток нажал и уже 120 миль в час... Бокстер зато в поворотах- чудо- такого никто не делает...
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| Пт, Авг 13, 2010 10:10am Alex - 5012 d back | ↑↓ |
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Как говорит один мой знакомый любитель немецких машин: "The car MUST BE GERMAN !" .
Mercedez -это машина для пассажиров а BMW - для водителя.
Кроме того в США имея новый BMW до 50.000 весь maintenance уже оплачен. Никаких денег на oil change и т.д. - только на бензин.
Ну то как drive BMW - просто ни с какой машиной не сравнимо - стабильно, а на сфетофорах - всегда первый !
Алекс.
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